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| 14:30:43 | <CaptSolo> | a discussion on the SocWeb XG re vCard vocab |
| 14:31:20 | <CaptSolo> | thosch: can you take a look at the wiki if you get a moment? |
| 14:31:25 | <CaptSolo> | just a bit of spam |
| 15:26:35 | <CaptSolo> | hi blx |
| 15:26:42 | <CaptSolo> | ACTION is looking for that SIOC paper quote |
| 15:27:34 | <CaptSolo> | ok, that was the final sentence n the paper and is about P2P query routing |
| 15:27:48 | <CaptSolo> | "In the future, we intend to exploit the |
| 15:27:48 | <CaptSolo> | characteristics of intra- and inter-site links to guide query routing in a P2P-like |
| 15:27:51 | <CaptSolo> | environment." |
| 15:28:22 | <CaptSolo> | http://sw.deri.org/2004/12/sioc/index.pdf |
| 15:28:56 | <CaptSolo> | ok, that is a bit vague, i guess :) |
| 15:32:29 | <blx> | yes, i'm trying here to ditch the "site" concept in general |
| 15:33:54 | <CaptSolo> | if you don't need a term, you just don't use it |
| 15:34:17 | <CaptSolo> | same as someone could just reuse one concept from FOAF or SIOC and not use others (if not needed) |
| 15:35:03 | <CaptSolo> | ACTION made a Resume RDF vocab long time ago. someone was reusing just one property from it - to indicate sex of a person :) |
| 15:35:51 | <CaptSolo> | blx: it will be interesting to see what data structure you come up with |
| 15:36:20 | <CaptSolo> | will you need some kind of a hash-based lookup like with .magnet links? |
| 15:36:34 | <blx> | i am not aware of .magnet links |
| 15:36:51 | <CaptSolo> | if you need to sketch out concepts to use for this use case, feel free to create a page on the SIOC wiki |
| 15:37:04 | <CaptSolo> | blx: that's a bittorrent concept |
| 15:37:15 | <CaptSolo> | it is not specific to bittorrent, just used there |
| 15:37:23 | <blx> | reading the wikipedia entry |
| 15:37:50 | <CaptSolo> | magnet link contains the hash of content which you can use to look the content up on DHT |
| 15:38:39 | <CaptSolo> | someone played with putting RDF on bt and how you would use magnet URIs instead of HTTP uris |
| 15:38:54 | <blx> | sounds great |
| 15:38:55 | <CaptSolo> | again, not sure if it is needed for your case |
| 15:39:02 | <CaptSolo> | just throwing around some ideas |
| 15:39:31 | <blx> | i'm thinking that file sharing is something that could give rogue p2p networks an edge over centralized services |
| 15:39:33 | <CaptSolo> | (of course, if content changes then it would not match the same magnet uri) |
| 15:40:01 | <CaptSolo> | not convinced it is in file sharing though |
| 15:40:20 | <CaptSolo> | file sharing is already the most popular use of p2p (i guess) |
| 15:40:35 | <CaptSolo> | but that does not give it an edge unless you are specifically interested in file sharing |
| 15:40:43 | <blx> | yes, but how to get people to break with walled-in communities |
| 15:40:55 | <CaptSolo> | what is interesting to me is how file sharing boosts p2p developments |
| 15:41:01 | <blx> | i would say most people are interested in sharing music/movies with each other |
| 15:41:12 | <CaptSolo> | and how those can then be reused elsewhere, perhaps in more interesting use cases |
| 15:41:32 | <CaptSolo> | but that does not require anything more than what is already there in p2p |
| 15:41:59 | <CaptSolo> | people already do that. so my point is that it's not new. |
| 15:42:00 | <blx> | a funcion like, "hey listen to this song" with an automatic push would be very nice for example |
| 15:42:53 | <CaptSolo> | in that case you would need to push a message "listen to this song" to the p2p cloud |
| 15:43:03 | <CaptSolo> | (e.g. a group of your friends) |
| 15:43:14 | <CaptSolo> | and then they would pull the song from you if needed |
| 15:43:24 | <CaptSolo> | if all have the song already, then you just need that message |
| 15:43:32 | <blx> | good point |
| 15:47:58 | <CaptSolo> | ACTION has to do some work now |
| 15:48:17 | <CaptSolo> | but i am around here most of the time even when away |
| 15:51:40 | <blx> | have fun |
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