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| 00:06:53 | <drobilla> | <html is-a="http://whatever"> |
| 00:07:12 | <drobilla> | absolutely no reason for a billion different things to be in there like that |
| 00:08:24 | <melvster1> | wow the pirate party got a seat in the european parliament |
| 00:08:43 | <PovAddict> | ACTION continues building his graph: http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/nicolas/boinc/projects-graph-rdf.png |
| 00:09:23 | <PovAddict> | using unix pipelines, I'm removing the rdf:type triples, just to keep the graphviz image from getting crowded |
| 00:10:02 | <drobilla> | ... boinc? :) |
| 00:10:21 | <PovAddict> | http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ |
| 00:10:25 | <PovAddict> | distributed computing |
| 00:11:53 | <drobilla> | ah |
| 00:15:37 | <PovAddict> | any suggestion for how I can say "yoyo@home is 'owned' by Rechenkraft e.V non-profit association", or "SETI@Home is owned by the University of California"? I'm not even sure if "owned" is the right word here |
| 00:16:27 | <drobilla> | doap:maintainer? |
| 00:16:31 | <drobilla> | (bit of a stretch) |
| 00:16:37 | <PovAddict> | hmm |
| 00:16:55 | <PovAddict> | well, "Rechenkraft" would be a foaf:Organization, wouldn't it? |
| 00:17:25 | <PovAddict> | (bonus points if you know of an ontology that lets me say it's a non-profit) |
| 00:18:08 | <drobilla> | ACTION checks doap |
| 00:18:21 | <drobilla> | range of maintainer is indeed foaf:Person, n/m |
| 00:18:28 | <PovAddict> | for a start, I'm not even sure if a boinc:Project is a foaf:Agent, a sioc:Site, a doap:Project, or what the hell :) |
| 00:18:35 | <drobilla> | there is an organizations ontology somewhere.. saw in on schemaweb iirc |
| 00:18:58 | <drobilla> | are you defining boinc? |
| 00:19:05 | <PovAddict> | yep |
| 00:19:13 | <drobilla> | my first thought looking at that graph is "wow, lots of unnecessary doap overlap" FWIW |
| 00:19:34 | <PovAddict> | a doap project is a software development project |
| 00:20:00 | <PovAddict> | "A [BOINC] project is an entity that does distributed computing using BOINC. Projects are independent; each one has its own applications, database, web site, and servers, and is not affected by the status of other projects." |
| 00:20:14 | <PovAddict> | by now there may be a hundred of them worldwide |
| 00:20:59 | <PovAddict> | I don't think you can say a boinc:Project is a doap:Project, although maybe it could "have" a doap:Project if its computation app is open source |
| 00:21:12 | <drobilla> | ACTION shrugs |
| 00:21:13 | <drobilla> | fair enough |
| 00:22:53 | <PovAddict> | hmm... similarly, I'd say a boinc:Project is not a doap:Site, but it *has* a doap:Forum |
| 00:22:59 | <PovAddict> | er |
| 00:23:02 | <PovAddict> | s/doap/sioc/g |
| 00:27:21 | <PovAddict> | it's not an organization; it's *controlled by* organizations or individuals |
| 00:43:26 | <PovAddict> | hmm |
| 00:44:15 | <PovAddict> | foaf:depiction points directly to a, say, .jpg URL? |
| 01:18:41 | <kennyluck> | Is there an ontology that basically describes all that could be described with DOAC(description of a career) and which is derefereacable? |
| 01:19:30 | <kennyluck> | And many thanks to examples of such use. |
| 02:06:53 | <PovAddict> | I think what fits better is sioc:Site for a boinc:Project... because then I can identify the admins using sioc:administrator_of |
| 02:07:04 | <PovAddict> | but in a boinc:Project, the "online community" is kinda secondary |
| 02:18:53 | <idmclean> | Kinda of a brainstorming question, what could the semantic web do for p2p networking? |
| 02:28:05 | <snail> | idmclean: Kinda of a brainstorming question, what could the semantic web do for any kind of networking? |
| 02:28:36 | <PovAddict> | kind of a nitpick: "kinda of" is redundant :) |
| 02:30:46 | <idmclean> | If I were to design a p2p file sharing protocol, what applications would RDF be well suited for? |
| 02:32:25 | <PovAddict> | describing the files being shared |
| 02:33:25 | <idmclean> | Could RDF be used for building peer graphs? |
| 02:33:55 | <PovAddict> | that info is too volatile |
| 02:35:21 | <idmclean> | I imagine foaf and sioc might find an application in p2p networks. |
| 02:43:22 | <snail> | idmclean: RDF could be used as a carrier for practically any kind of information |
| 02:44:10 | <snail> | idmclean: about the only kind of information that RDF is poor at carrying is document-structured data (i.e, the text of a book) |
| 02:45:29 | <PovAddict> | document-structured data is what XML was made for, why are we using XML to serialize RDF? :) |
| 02:46:05 | <idmclean> | I'm trying to imagine specific implemenation strategies for a semantic swarm |
| 02:47:24 | <PovAddict> | what would be "semantic" about it? |
| 02:49:09 | <idmclean> | That's the brainstorming part of the exercise. I'm too fuzzy in my understanding about peer to peer networks and the details of rdf structures to clearly visualize the amalgamation of the two technologies. |
| 02:50:15 | <PovAddict> | RDF doesn't instantly mean semantic |
| 02:52:09 | <snail> | idmclean: RDF would be good for describing the actors (peers), documents, connections, packets, reflectors, aggregators etc |
| 02:52:33 | <snail> | There are already RDF vocabularies for describing actors and documents |
| 02:53:08 | <idmclean> | True, but it is a means to semantic meaning. Seeding and trackers seem like good places to apply semantics to. I'm interested in the ways which semantic strategies might be applied towards building peer networks. |
| 05:10:29 | <mhausenblas> | good morning Web of Data |
| 05:11:13 | <PovAddict> | hey _o/ |
| 05:11:16 | <PovAddict> | I learned Turtle :) |
| 05:16:32 | <PovAddict> | I keep forgetting the goddamned periods at the end of triples! |
| 05:20:50 | <PovAddict> | help... I can't use prefix:123 as a node in turtle? it has to have letters? |
| 06:12:51 | <drewp> | yeah some of the dialects won't accept that. Possibly because it's too close to "prefix: 123" (uri and then a literal number)? |
| 06:14:05 | <PovAddict> | I wanted to do @prefix qc: <http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=> |
| 06:14:19 | <PovAddict> | then qc:1 a comic:ComicStrip. |
| 06:14:34 | <drewp> | i've wanted that lots of times too |
| 06:15:01 | <PovAddict> | now I'm using |
| 06:15:02 | <PovAddict> | @base <http://questionablecontent.net/> . |
| 06:15:02 | <PovAddict> | <view.php?comic=1> a comic:ComicStrip; |
| 06:29:28 | <mhausenblas> | Pipian around? |
| 06:30:19 | <mhausenblas> | added telegraphis.net's voiD description to http://semanticweb.org/wiki/VoiD#Examples_in_the_Wild ... feel free to put more there ;) |
| 06:30:53 | <mhausenblas> | http://www.straight.com/article-229237/qa-chris-messina-microformats-and-semantic-and-social-webs |
| 06:31:11 | <mhausenblas> | C:| Q&A: Chris Messina on microformats and the semantic and social webs |
| 06:31:24 | <mhausenblas> | C: includes questions round RDFa and linked data |
| 06:31:34 | <mhausenblas> | C: couldn't resist, had to comment |
| 08:48:14 | <bblfish> | gromgull, do you have pictures of the restaurant after the party when my phone fell in the water? |
| 08:48:38 | <gromgull> | Hmm - the one restaurant we always went to? |
| 08:48:41 | <gromgull> | I might do :) |
| 08:48:48 | <gromgull> | I'll upload the photos this evening |
| 08:48:48 | <bblfish> | yes |
| 08:49:00 | <gromgull> | I mean you have general photos of this restaurant as well? |
| 08:49:10 | <gromgull> | you want a special one of you holding your broken iphone? |
| 08:49:11 | <bblfish> | ah great. I am trying to work out who was at the head of the table to the right of me |
| 08:49:41 | <gromgull> | ah - yes I do have a picture of that person |
| 08:49:47 | <gromgull> | you sat across from Phil |
| 08:49:49 | <gromgull> | ... |
| 08:49:50 | <gromgull> | something |
| 08:49:56 | <gromgull> | Dawes? |
| 08:49:59 | <gromgull> | and there was another older chap at the ned |
| 08:49:59 | <gromgull> | end |
| 08:50:00 | <bblfish> | I have a picture of you on flickr btw |
| 08:50:07 | <gromgull> | I have it - but not here |
| 08:50:10 | <gromgull> | left the laptop at home |
| 08:50:30 | <bblfish> | ah ok. Well, I'll pursue my reserch then when you have put the photos online |
| 08:50:48 | <bblfish> | Just trying to link up with the various people I had conversations with |
| 08:50:59 | <gromgull> | I saw that - I look like a pirate :) |
| 08:51:10 | <gromgull> | well - slighlty more than usual |
| 08:51:17 | <bblfish> | you vote for the pirate party? |
| 08:51:31 | <gromgull> | I am not european - I cannot vote :) |
| 08:51:42 | <gromgull> | well - at least not by the EU definition |
| 08:51:46 | <bblfish> | As a pirate, you should have |
| 08:51:59 | <bblfish> | ;-) |
| 08:53:09 | <bblfish> | but I don't think you look like a pirate here http://www.flickr.com/photos/bblfish/3601422682/ |
| 08:54:01 | <gromgull> | No i checked it again - i was mistaken... someone else had a pirate picture... |
| 08:54:18 | <gromgull> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/31208015@N04/3597303541/in/photostream/ |
| 08:54:20 | <gromgull> | perhaps this? |
| 08:54:23 | <gromgull> | whoops |
| 08:54:29 | <gromgull> | D:| gromgull is angry |
| 08:54:38 | <gromgull> | D: Photo from clauwa |
| 08:59:26 | <bblfish> | ah yes, that's an angry pirate if ever I saw one. Disguised of course, cause your missing the eye patch |
| 09:00:58 | <kjetilkWork> | heh, and a big scary astronomer :-) |
| 09:10:32 | <gromgull> | bblfish: re the google language setting thing - it's a cookie issue apparently, your google cookie(s) get corrupted and it gets confused. I keep going back to google.de, and it resets my search autocomplete, safesearch, etc. settings as well |
| 09:11:29 | <bblfish> | ah ok, let me try killing the cookies |
| 09:13:04 | <gromgull> | if you kill them it will behave for a while, then get corrupted again... it's something geeky people do that breaks it - my girlfriend has no problems |
| 09:14:46 | <kjetilkWork> | ah, never let geeks report bugs ;-) |
| 09:17:07 | <mhausenblas> | http://webofdata.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/streamed-linked-data/ |
| 09:17:15 | <mhausenblas> | E:| Streamed Linked Data ? |
| 09:17:28 | <mhausenblas> | E: comments anyone? |
| 09:33:01 | <bblfish> | gromgull, I killed all the cookies, tried setting the prefs in English, but it still defaults to the greek page. I'll just use google.co.uk |
| 09:33:35 | <gromgull> | if you go to google.com or whatever... it redirects to google.gr |
| 09:33:40 | <gromgull> | then click "go to google.com" at the bottom |
| 09:33:44 | <gromgull> | it should in theory remember |
| 09:33:44 | <bblfish> | ah |
| 09:45:55 | <Hixie> | hi |
| 09:45:58 | <Hixie> | is there a way to express <div about="x"><img src="x">...</div> in RDFa without repeating the "x"? (the "..." being a bunch of <span property="">value</span> pairs to hang on the url "x") |
| 09:57:58 | <bblfish> | yep it remembered it, thanks gromgull |
| 10:01:03 | <mhausenblas> | Hixie: not really, as you need to set the subject of a triple, right? |
| 10:01:33 | <mhausenblas> | Hixie, if you have a concrete snippet, put it on pastebin and I try to 'optimize' it, ok? |
| 10:08:00 | <Hixie> | mhausenblas: http://pastebin.com/d409e5064 |
| 10:25:45 | <Hixie> | mhausenblas: i have to go to bed now but i'll look in the morning in case you do find a solution - thanks! :-) |
| 10:30:29 | <mhausenblas> | Hixie: ok. sleep well. |
| 11:51:21 | <tobyink> | Best I could come up with as an answer for Hixie: http://pastebin.com/m6ff39dcc |
| 11:53:29 | <tobyink> | Oh, and http://pastebin.com/m48633eb0 |
| 11:54:11 | <tobyink> | http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/laconica-0.7.3-foafsioc.patch |
| 11:54:38 | <tobyink> | F:|FOAF+SIOC fixes patch for laconi.ca 0.7.3. |
| 11:54:38 | <rio__> | Can anybody help me with scientific paper? Is exist any common example to present semantic web service work? |
| 12:10:04 | <susscorf1> | is there a RDF statement that indicates suggested type instead of rdf:type |
| 12:10:18 | <susscorf1> | for a rdf schema |
| 12:12:19 | <keithA> | susscorf1: can you elaborate? I'm not sure i understand the question |
| 12:16:50 | <tobyink> | surrcorfl: I think you might want rdfs:domain or rdfs:range? |
| 12:18:00 | <susscorf1> | i want to sugest to people using the schema to use specific types like date formats |
| 12:18:20 | <susscorf1> | but i dont want the file to be invalid when others are used |
| 12:19:18 | <tobyink> | susscorf1: if you say that the rdfs:range of a property is Foo, then that means that any time that property is used, the value must be a Foo. |
| 12:20:07 | <tobyink> | e.g. the rdfs:range of foaf:knows is foaf:Person. So if I say that <#me> foaf:knows <#you> it is automatically implied that <#you> is a foaf:Person. |
| 12:21:02 | <susscorf1> | but i want to suggest to people #you to be a person but also possibly something else |
| 12:22:29 | <tobyink> | Probably the best thing it to set the domain and range to be the widest sensible thing and then mention the narrower alternatives in the description of the term. (e.g. rdfs:comment). |
| 12:23:29 | <susscorf1> | ok that was what i thought of but i hoped there was a nicer solution |
| 12:23:51 | <tobyink> | For example, if I was defining a "worksFor" property, I might say that its formal range is foaf:Agent but suggest that it mainly be used with foaf:Organization (which is of course a subclass of foaf:Agent). |
| 12:25:40 | <tobyink> | susscorf1 - of course there's nothing to prevent you defining your own "suggestedRange" property! |
| 13:34:47 | <crisb2010> | hi there |
| 13:35:35 | <tobyink> | crisb2010: hello |
| 13:36:19 | <crisb2010> | i have a sparql question: i'm using this query (http://pastie.org/504448) to select all process models from my database. the first query works fine, he shows all models. what i want to do is select all models that have a accelerating moment "code". unfortunately it doesn't work. i tried several other ways, but i'm stuck somehow. |
| 13:36:57 | <crisb2010> | if you need any additional infos i'll try to provide them |
| 13:40:49 | <tobyink> | In your database, do these "Code" literals have a language or datatype? If so, that can something cause problems. |
| 13:40:58 | <tobyink> | "Code" is not equal to "Code"@en. |
| 13:41:20 | <keithA> | also, case sensitive |
| 13:41:47 | <keithA> | just now you said "code", not "Code" |
| 13:42:09 | <keithA> | but prolly that was just quick typing |
| 13:42:24 | <crisb2010> | yes, it was :) |
| 13:44:24 | <crisb2010> | "Code" is an individual of AcceleratingMoment and belongs to a process model via hasAccelerating moment |
| 13:44:30 | <crisb2010> | perhaps i'm not on the right track there |
| 13:47:45 | <crisb2010> | the thing is i'm not getting an error, the query is just empty. not very helpfull :) |
| 13:48:59 | <LeeF> | crisb2010, where you have "Code" in your query needs to match what's in the DB, or you'll get no results - so if you the DB actually has the object of hasAccelerating as individual resources, you need to use the URI for the "Code" individual there instead of the string "Code" like you have now |
| 13:49:14 | <LeeF> | without knowing anything else about your data/domain, it's hard to know exactly what the right answer would be :) |
| 13:49:56 | <swh> | crisb2010: try replace some constants with ?foo and SELECT * with a limit |
| 13:50:06 | <crisb2010> | i know it's hard to answer without knowing the data. perhaps i could dump the owl. would that help? |
| 13:55:49 | <crisb2010> | think i got it |
| 13:57:10 | <crisb2010> | this (http://pastie.org/504474) does the trick. it selects all models with an accelerating moment of "Time" |
| 13:57:43 | <crisb2010> | taking a look at the database was a good idea, LeeF |
| 13:59:56 | <crisb2010> | anyway, thank you all for your hints. it's good to know that there is a place where i can get some help when i'm stuck with that stuff |
| 14:16:44 | <LeeF> | crisb2010, glad you got it - the extra link to the label is often the way to go in these things |
| 14:22:39 | <yvesr> | LeeF: just got the email about scovo - realy interesting comments |
| 14:23:12 | <yvesr> | perhaps having a dataset as a skos:Concept is a bit too restrictive... |
| 14:29:53 | <tobyink> | Oh, I forgot to mention. Less than 20 hours until awesomeness arrives. |
| 14:32:21 | <LeeF> | yvesr, i haven't studied the feedback yet |
| 14:33:23 | <LeeF> | but subclassing skos:Concept doesn't restrict richer relationships between Datasets, so off-the-cuff I'm not sure I agree with that comment |
| 16:24:43 | <mhausenblas> | nite nite Web of Data |
| 16:31:09 | <danbri> | http://bradleypallen.org/post/10814190/faceted-classification-and-frbr |
| 16:49:50 | <Anchakor> | anyone knows if rdflib can load any file with rdf in one of supported serializations, detecting which one? |
| 16:50:59 | <mischat> | their is a guess flag you can send raptor from the command line which does a good job of guessing |
| 16:51:08 | <mischat> | if that helps |
| 16:52:26 | <Anchakor> | oh I mean python rdflib |
| 16:53:01 | <Anchakor> | no raptors flying there :) |
| 16:53:37 | <PovAddict> | rawr |
| 16:53:42 | <mischat> | doesn't that sit on top of libraptor ? /me doesn't use python |
| 16:54:23 | <Anchakor> | ACTION doesn't know and is drowning in awful autogenerated docs |
| 16:54:29 | <drewp> | no, rdflib has its own parsers |
| 16:54:50 | <swh> | I think it's the librdf (raptor etc.) v's rdflib (python) confusion |
| 16:54:52 | <drewp> | and i'm not aware of a guesser |
| 16:55:38 | <mischat> | ah i see, i could have well mixed them up in my head, they sound too similar |
| 16:55:44 | <mischat> | i guess they do the same thing :) |
| 17:17:15 | <scor> | LeeF: hi |
| 17:24:19 | <ericP> | anyone know of some ontology for mathmatical equations? |
| 17:24:52 | <ericP> | for instance, could i use someone's schema to write MathML in RDF? |
| 19:14:09 | <Hixie> | tobyink: thanks for the help! |
| 19:36:37 | <PovAddict> | SPARQL, like Turtle, is far easier than I expected |
| 19:36:57 | <PovAddict> | this is important to take note of... many people (like me) may be staying away because they think it's harder than it really is |
| 19:47:26 | <LeeF> | PovAddict, that's very interesting to hear - can you speculate as to why you thought it would be harder and what about it makes it easier? |
| 19:47:43 | <PovAddict> | maybe I looked at too many computer-generated RDF serializations that looked like line noise? |
| 19:48:21 | <LeeF> | Or, an alternative question would be - are there any technologies recently that you've been exposed to (and didn't know previously) that you thought "that would be easy to learn" ? |
| 19:49:03 | <PovAddict> | well, I never found any "Turtle tutorial"; I used an RDF primer from w3.org that explained n3 |
| 19:49:18 | <PovAddict> | and worked around the errors from incompatible syntax between n3 and ttl |
| 19:49:36 | <PovAddict> | ...and kept forgetting the periods at end of triples :D |
| 19:50:18 | <PovAddict> | I guess I just needed convincing into looking at it |
| 19:50:29 | <Shepard> | there's the RDF Primer in Turtle: http://www.w3.org/2007/02/turtle/primer/ |
| 19:50:49 | <PovAddict> | damn what a contrast |
| 19:50:49 | <Shepard> | which of course is not a good starting point if you know RDF already |
| 19:50:55 | <PovAddict> | 24 hours ago I knew RDF concepts but had never written Turtle or SPARQL |
| 19:52:08 | <PovAddict> | now I wrote an IRC bot that... |
| 19:52:30 | <PovAddict> | [16:47] <PovAddict> BoincBot: list projects |
| 19:52:30 | <PovAddict> | [16:47] <BoincBot> Einstein@Home, Hydrogen@Home, yoyo@home, PrimeGrid, QMC@Home, Ramsey@Home, Rosetta@Home and DrugDiscovery@Home |
| 19:52:36 | <PovAddict> | that's doing SELECT ?pn WHERE { ?p boinc:projectName ?pn . ?p a boinc:Project . } |
| 19:52:44 | <PovAddict> | bot loads a Turtle file on load |
| 19:52:50 | <PovAddict> | using rdflib |
| 19:53:13 | <PovAddict> | Python |
| 19:53:30 | <LeeF> | terrific, PovAddict |
| 19:55:49 | <PovAddict> | after using Turtle yesterday and making a file with 40 triples, SPARQL took me a minute to figure out, from looking at an example or two |
| 19:59:03 | <PovAddict> | I showed my DB to a project admin (my graph had a boinc:Project boinc:admin foaf:Person triple pointing to him) |
| 19:59:08 | <PovAddict> | he knows nothing about RDF |
| 19:59:23 | <PovAddict> | I gave him a link to FOAF spec |
| 19:59:41 | <PovAddict> | and he said "heh, can you add foaf:interest:donuts" |
| 20:00:27 | <PovAddict> | <PovAddict> foaf:interest is defined to point to a foaf:Document, not a string literal... |
| 20:00:28 | <PovAddict> | <PovAddict> oh wait, I know |
| 20:00:42 | <PovAddict> | so I added foaf:interest dbpedia:Doughnut |
| 20:00:45 | <PovAddict> | :) |
| 20:00:47 | <PovAddict> | rdf ftw |
| 20:23:19 | <PovAddict> | ACTION adds a command to his bot |
| 20:24:47 | <PovAddict> | all admins are foaf:Person blank nodes; for a second I thought handling blank nodes would need some change, but nope |
| 20:25:18 | <PovAddict> | just ?p boinc:admin ?adm . ?adm foaf:nick ?ircname . |
| 21:13:36 | <LeeF> | PovAddict, for what it's worth, you can abbreviate that in SPARQL to "?p boinc:admin [ foaf:nick ?ircname ] ." (the square brackets are a blank node, which in SPARQL basically act like an unnamed variable that acts as the subject of any triples inside them) |
| 21:17:44 | <PovAddict> | thx |
| 21:18:01 | <PovAddict> | fir^H^H^H second time using sparql, so... :) |
| 21:19:29 | <tobyink> | Less than 12 hours until the awesomeness! I can hardly wait! |
| 21:27:55 | <Shepard> | O_o |
| 21:30:41 | <PovAddict> | o_O |
| 21:47:52 | <PovAddict> | how do I say where a foaf:Person lives? |
| 21:47:55 | <PovAddict> | country will be enough |
| 21:52:26 | <mischat> | foaf:based_near |
| 21:53:27 | <PovAddict> | are there canonical URIs for countries? |
| 21:58:04 | <Anchakor> | PovAddict: maybe you could try this or dbpedia http://www.freebase.com/view/location/country |
| 21:58:14 | <PovAddict> | blargh |
| 21:58:32 | <Anchakor> | I mean rdf variant of course |
| 21:58:36 | <PovAddict> | if I use freebase and you use dbpedia, searches for "people living in <country>" are made useless |
| 21:58:52 | <Anchakor> | no, inferencing must pick up |
| 21:59:18 | <Anchakor> | and freebase has pointers to dbpedia I've read |
| 21:59:37 | <mischat> | you can use geonames, they have uri's for places http://www.geonames.org/export/web-services.html |
| 21:59:44 | <Shepard> | PovAddict: http://www.telegraphis.net/data/countries/ |
| 21:59:55 | <PovAddict> | four already? heh |
| 21:59:59 | <Shepard> | :) |
| 22:00:12 | <PovAddict> | are all four linked to each other? |
| 22:01:32 | <PovAddict> | ACTION picks telegraphis |
| 22:01:53 | <PovAddict> | it links to dbpedia and geonames, and freebase links to dbpedia too |
| 22:02:03 | <PovAddict> | so I guess they're all connected |
| 22:02:11 | <Anchakor> | we need some tools developed to find that out and suggest mapping |
| 22:02:38 | <PovAddict> | my current graph: http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/nicolas/boinc/projects-graph-rdf.png |
| 22:05:06 | <PovAddict> | hmm I can't link to telegraphis countries using a prefix... |
| 22:05:16 | <PovAddict> | I'd need countries:LT#LT which isn't valid |
| 22:23:03 | <Anchakor> | anyone got a sparql query to return list of all nodes of graph (without duplicates)? |
| 22:23:35 | <Anchakor> | (?s ?p ?o) - ?s, ?o = nodes |
| 22:29:26 | <PovAddict> | @prefix country: <http://www.geonames.org/countries/#> . |
| 22:29:33 | <PovAddict> | :someone foaf:based_near country:LT . |
| 22:29:38 | <PovAddict> | does that seem ok? |
| 22:30:25 | <mischat> | this is an example geonames rdf URI http://sws.geonames.org/2643743/ |
| 22:30:58 | <mischat> | gggr, that just crashed my ff |
| 22:31:28 | <PovAddict> | I'd prefer something *readable* :) |
| 22:31:54 | <PovAddict> | otherwise we'd be using UUIDs instead of URIs |
| 22:45:09 | <PovAddict> | a country in telegraphis has owl:sameAs pointing to both sws.geonames.org/number and www.geonames.org/countries/#CODE |
| 22:57:44 | <LeeF> | Anchakor: select distinct ?node { { ?node ?p ?o } UNION { ?s ?p ?node } } ? maybe with a FILTER(isURI(?node)) thrown in to the object case if you want to exclude literals |
| 23:04:16 | <Anchakor> | LeeF: thanks! |
| 23:22:46 | <PovAddict> | [16:50] <Shepard> there's the RDF Primer in Turtle: http://www.w3.org/2007/02/turtle/primer/ |
| 23:22:50 | <PovAddict> | I was just looking at it... |
| 23:23:03 | <PovAddict> | it seems to lack the one example I need |
| 23:23:12 | <PovAddict> | like, it says "in the following example:" and there's no example afterwards |
| 23:23:20 | <PovAddict> | there are even anchor links to it, but it's just not there |
| 23:23:23 | <PovAddict> | http://www.w3.org/2007/02/turtle/primer/#example17 |
| 23:23:30 | <PovAddict> | A:missing example! |
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